[Cryptography] What ever happened to end-to-end email encryption?

Bill Cox waywardgeek at gmail.com
Thu Aug 26 10:46:52 EDT 2021


On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 7:09 AM Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill at hallambaker.com>
wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 9:38 AM Bill Cox <waywardgeek at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In reality, when a big email provider starts working on e2e email
>> encryption, someone in government has a friendly conversation with some
>> lobbyist or high level manager, and it is made clear that congress will
>> step in with regulations to overturn e2e email if widely enabled.
>>
>> There may be a middle ground <https://arxiv.org/abs/1906.07841> in the
>> future.  I know the hysterical folks on this list would hate it, but it
>> would be better than what we have now.
>>
>
> I have told six former CIA/NSA directors what I am up to. None has told me
> to stop.
>
> The people from the Cabinet Office (GCHQ) are unhappy with my plans but
> they haven't tried to tell me to stop either.
>
>
> The lack of email security is ultimately the reason Putin was able to
> install his kompromized rapist in the WhiteHouse for four years. The lack
> of email security has directly led to 500,000 more Americans dying in the
> pandemic.
>
> There are powerful forces making end-to-end hard but the intel agencies
> are not a factor.
>

I'm sure you know I am a fan of your MMM work.  However, I happen to know
that the government reps do in fact hold informal discussions with large
email providers to get them to back away from e2e email encryption.

I agree with all of your points.  Better email security would be good for
our national security and user privacy at the same time.  This is why I
think there is room for compromise.

If there is going to be any compromise, it will take someone like you to
help make it happen.  You should consider being at the table when they
decide what the privacy policy should be.

Bill
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