phill at hallambaker.com
Thu Sep 6 21:39:38 EDT 2018
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 3:32 PM, Paul Wouters <paul at cypherpunks.ca> wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018, Jerry Leichter wrote:
> The real question isn't whether all these things are potentially useful,
>> it's whether people actually do use them.
> Yes, they use them.
> The takeup of IPSec is pretty small.
> You are very wrong. IPsec was already in massive use before openvpn,
> before anyconnect, and before all Windows/Mac products moved to
> IKEv2/IPsec, and even more so now those products have.
I am not so sure how extensive use of IPSEC is for security though.
The main reason I use VPNs is that they are the only cross-platform means
of proxying the IP stack so you can access from different geo-IP locations.
I would not describe IPSEC as a standard as it is difficult enough to get
OpenVPN to talk to OpenVPN.
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