[Cryptography] Photon beam splitters for "true" random number generation ?

Henry Baker hbaker1 at pipeline.com
Thu Dec 17 11:47:05 EST 2015


At 04:10 AM 12/17/2015, Jerry Leichter wrote:
>We argue using simple models that all successful practical uses of probabilities originate in quantum fluctuations in the microscopic physical world around us, often propagated to macroscopic scales.
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>Thus we claim there is no physically verified fully classical theory of probability.
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>We comment on the general implications of this view, and specifically question the application of classical probability theory to cosmology in cases where key questions are known to have no quantum answer.

This can't be true, unless the defn is chosen to make it vacuously true.

For example, even classical 3-body Newtonian gravitation is chaotic in such a way that the future cannot be predicted.  One can set up initial conditions on a 3-body gravitational system in such a way that the ensuing chaos can encode *all of the infinite number of bits* of any given transcendental number, whether or not such number has a finite Turing Machine description (a la Chaitin).

If such a sequence of bits doesn't conform to most peoples' definition of a "random" number, then I don't know what will.



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