[Cryptography] The role of the IETF in security of the Internet: for or against the NSA? for or against the security of users of the net?

[Dave Horsfall]

On Sat, 19 Jul 2014, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:

> There is really no problem with a trusted proxy, the question is
> whether the proxy is trustworthy or not. Consider the following
> possibilities:

At the risk of getting my head bitten off for stating the obvious, it 
might be worth demonstrating the difference between a trustworthy system 
and a trusted system rather more succintly:

A trustworthy system is one that you *can* trust; a trusted system is one 
that you *have* to trust.

-- Dave