[Cryptography] GHCQ Penetration of Belgacom
hbaker1 at pipeline.com
Wed Dec 17 15:50:05 EST 2014
At 09:09 AM 12/17/2014, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
>On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:34 AM, Christian Huitema <huitema at huitema.net> wrote:
>> China has it, why wouldn't the NSA?
>I bet you they also have access to the Linux source code.
>Ah but does China have access to the same source as the NSA?
FYI -- It won't matter very much after 2020. This is a trade war that the NSA/GCHQ started ("the NSA doth protest too much about Huawei, methinks"); we buttered our bread, now we'll lie in it. (pun intended)
The US also just shot itself in the infrastructure ("U.S. Imposes Steep Tariffs on Importers of Chinese Solar Panels"), so we're going to slow down the march toward energy independence and grid resilience.
China Said to Plan Sweeping Shift From Foreign Technology to Own
By Bloomberg News 2014-12-17T16:00:00Z
The plan for changes in four segments of the economy is driven by national security concerns and marks an increasingly determined move away from foreign suppliers under President Xi Jinping, the people said.
China is aiming to *** purge most foreign technology *** from banks, the military, state-owned enterprises and key government agencies by 2020, stepping up efforts to shift to Chinese suppliers, according to people familiar with the effort.
The push comes after a test of domestic alternatives in the northeastern city of Siping that was deemed a success, said the people, who asked not to be named because the details arent public. Workers there replaced Microsoft Corp.s (MSFT) Windows with a homegrown operating system called NeoKylin and swapped foreign servers for ones made by Chinas Inspur Group Ltd., they said.
The plan for changes in four segments of the economy is driven by national security concerns and marks an increasingly determined move away from foreign suppliers under President Xi Jinping, the people said. The campaign could have lasting consequences for U.S. companies including Cisco Systems Inc. (CSCO), International Business Machines Corp., Intel Corp. (INTC) and Hewlett-Packard Co.
The shift is real, said Charlie Dai, a Beijing-based analyst for Forrester Research Inc. We have seen emerging cases of replacing foreign products at all layers from application, middleware down to the infrastructure software and hardware.
China is moving to bolster its technology sector after Edward Snowden revealed widespread spying by the U.S. National Security Agency and accused the intelligence service of hacking into the computers of Tsinghua University, one of the Chinas top research centers. In February, Xi called for faster development of the industry at the first meeting of his Internet security panel.
Foreign suppliers may be able to avoid replacement if they share their core technology or give Chinas security inspectors access to their products, the people said. The technology may then be seen as safe and controllable, they said.
China ranks second behind the U.S. in technology spending, with outlays rising 8.1 percent to $182 billion last year, according to research firm IDC. The U.S. spent $656 billion, a 4.2 percent increase over 2012.
The push to develop local suppliers comes as Chinese regulators have pursued anti-trust probes against western companies, including Microsoft and Qualcomm Inc.(QCOM) Recent months have seen Microsofts China offices raided, Windows 8 banned from government computers and Apple Inc. (AAPL) iPads excluded from procurement lists.
I see a trade war happening. This could get ugly fast, and it has, said Ray Mota, chief executive officer of Gilbert, Arizona-based ACG Research, who expects the issue to result in direct talks between the U.S. and China. Its not going to be a technology discussion. Its going to be a political discussion.
In September, the China Banking Regulatory Commission ordered banks and finance agencies to ensure that at least 75 percent of their computer systems used safe technology by 2019. The regulator called on financial institutions to dedicate at least 5 percent of their IT budgets towards the goal.
While the CBRC policy doesnt make a distinction between foreign and domestic products, it says banks must favor companies who share their core knowledge and key technology. It also cautions banks from relying too heavily on one supplier.
Chinese firms, like Huawei Technologies Co. and ZTE Corp., have already begun to gain local market share at foreign rivals expense.
About 80 percent of banks core servers and systems are made by foreign brands, Yan Qingmin, a CBRC vice chairman, said Nov. 27 at a conference in Beijing sponsored by the news magazine Caijing.
Most of Chinas financial IT systems are from foreign countries, Yan said. From the perspective of national security, it poses potential threats to us.
The CBRC may start accounting for banks use of Chinese technology in its regulatory reviews, the Shanghai Securities News reported Dec. 4.
Xis Central Military Commission issued a similar, although less detailed, order in October, according to a report in the party-run Peoples Liberation Army Daily. That document described information security as key to winning battles.
Intel, Microsoft, HP, Cisco and Qualcomm declined to comment. IBM said it isnt aware of any Chinese government policy against using its servers in the banking industry.
Industrial & Commercial Bank of China, the countrys biggest bank, deployed a new IBM mainframe in August, the two companies said.
Chinese companies have faced similar pressure overseas. A 2012 U.S. Congressional report said Huawei and ZTE, the countrys largest phone-equipment makers, provide opportunities for Chinese spies to tamper with U.S. communications networks. Huawei has since been shut out from several U.S. deals.
In May, the U.S. Department of Justice accused five men in the Peoples Liberation Army of allegedly hacking into the computer systems of U.S. companies to steal information. The Chinese government called the charges absurd.
The orders from Chinese banking and military commissions coincided with the trial of domestic computer systems in Siping, a city of 3.4 million people in Jilin province. Other cities and agencies in Jilin will now begin testing whether NeoKylin, a Linux-based operating system from China Standard Software Co., can substitute for Windows and servers made by Inspur can replace IBMs, the two people familiar with the plan said. The trial will then expand across the country, they said.
Similar efforts were confirmed by one provincial-level worker and two local government workers in Jilins capital of Changchun, who asked not to be named while discussing internal matters. The two local government workers said some specialized software was swapped for domestic versions, including a tax program designed by the Harbin Institute of Technology.
China faces obstacles in replacing foreign software and hardware on a national scale. Almost three decades after paramount leader Deng Xiaoping approved his State Hi-Tech Development Plan, Chinese companies hold a fraction of global market share. Theyre still unable to match the most advanced products, such as high-end bank servers.
A key government motivation is to bring China up from low-end manufacturing to the high end, said Kitty Fok, China managing director for IDC.
National security provides China a powerful rallying cry, particularly within its sprawling state sector. China National Petroleum Corp., the countrys largest energy producer, announced Nov. 26 -- during Chinas first Cybersecurity Week -- that it had replaced its Microsoft e-mail with the homegrown eYou program to improve security.
The technology gap is closing, said Mota, who advises Cisco and HP, as well as Huawei and ZTE. In China, they have the patience to figure it out.
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To contact Bloomberg News staff for this story: Steven Yang in Beijing at kyang74 at bloomberg.net; Keith Zhai in Beijing at qzhai4 at bloomberg.net; Tim Culpan in Taipei at tculpan1 at bloomberg.net
To contact the editors responsible for this story: Nicholas Wadhams at nwadhams at bloomberg.net; Michael Tighe at mtighe4 at bloomberg.net
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