[Cryptography] What TLS ciphersuites are still OK?

Peter Fairbrother zenadsl6186 at zen.co.uk
Tue Sep 10 10:57:34 EDT 2013

On 10/09/13 14:03, Ben Laurie wrote:
> On 10 September 2013 03:59, james hughes <hughejp at mac.com
> <mailto:hughejp at mac.com>> wrote:
>     I retract my previous "+1" for this ciphersuite. This is hard coded
>     1024 DHE and 1024bit RSA.
> It is not hard coded to 1024 bit RSA. I have seen claims that some
> platforms hard code DHE to 1024 bits, but I have not investigated these
> claims. If true, something should probably be done.

Yes - hard code them all to 1024-bit. Then dump 
TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 in the bin where it belongs.

Then replace it with a suite such as 

Would a non-cryptographer know what 
TLS_DHE2048_WITH_RSA2048_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 meant? No. So for 
heaven's sake call it Ben's_suite or something, with a nice logo or 
icon, not TLS_DHE2048_WITH_RSA2048_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256.

They won't know what Ben's_suite means either, but they may trust you 
(or perhaps not, if you are still Working for Google ...)

The problem with TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 is that you don't 
know what you are getting.

[ The other problem is of course that the main browsers don't make it 
easy to find out which suite is actually in use ... :( ]

Hmmm, can a certificate have several keylengths to choose from? And, if 
the suite allows it, can a certificate have an RSA key for 
authentication and a different RSA key for session key setup (cf RIPA)?

-- Peter Fairbrother

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