[OpenID] rfc2817: https vs http

Ben Laurie benl at google.com
Mon Sep 1 22:51:24 EDT 2008


On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 1:32 AM, Eric Rescorla <ekr at networkresonance.com> wrote:
> At Mon, 1 Sep 2008 21:56:52 +0100,
> Ben Laurie wrote:
>> > Session caches are often dialed this low, but it's not really necessary
>> > in most applications. First, a session cache entry isn't really that
>> > big. It easily fits into 100 bytes on the server, so you can serve
>> > a million concurrent user for a measly 100M.
>>
>> But if the clients drop them after five minutes, this gets you
>> nowhere.
>
> Agreed. I thought we were contemplating protocol changes in
> any case, so I figured having clients just use a longer session
> cache (5 minutes is silly for a client anyway, since the amount
> of memory consumed on the client is miniscule) wasn't much
> of an obstacle.

Fair point.

>> BTW, sessions are only that small if there are no client
>> certs.
>
> True enough, though that's the common case right now.
>
>
>> > Second, you can use
>> > CSSC/Tickets [RFC5077] to offload all the information onto the client.
>>
>> Likewise.
>
> Except that CSSC actually looks better when client certs are used, since
> you can offload the entire cert storage to the client, so you get
> more memory savings.

I meant "five minutes".

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