Dutch Transport Card Broken

James A. Donald jamesd at echeque.com
Wed Jan 30 00:18:56 EST 2008


James A. Donald:
 >> SSL is layered on top of TCP, and then one layers
 >> one's actual protocol on top of SSL, with the result
 >> that a transaction involves a painfully large number
 >> of round trips.

Richard Salz wrote:
 > Perhaps theoretically painful, but in practice this is
 > not the case; commerce on the web is the
 > counter-example.

The delay is often humanly perceptible.  If humanly
perceptible, too much.

 > The benefits of layering for outweigh the perceived
 > gains of just merging it all together into one glob.
 > For example, the ability to replace layers, or replace
 > them by just dropping in a new library.

Compilation would provide the same benefits, and a fair
bit more - such as built in protocol negotiation, rather
than protocol negotiation being reinvented ad hoc in a
different and incompatible way each, and bolted on after
the fact in a different way each time.

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