ECC patents?
Whyte, William
WWhyte at ntru.com
Thu Sep 15 13:30:55 EDT 2005
$25MM figure:
http://lists.jammed.com/ISN/2003/10/0097.html
More details about what's covered:
http://www.nsa.gov/ia/industry/crypto_elliptic_curve.cfm
http://www.nsa.gov/ia/industry/crypto_suite_b.cfm
William
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> Subject: RE: ECC patents?
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> Whyte, William:
> > It hints that only some particular curves have been
> > licensed. It could be that NSA has decided not to buy
> > a license for the other curves, or it could be that
> > operations on those curves aren't patented. The
> > presentation doesn't give enough information to
> > establish which.
>
> If the NSA paid anything significant for any of the
> curves, we would be told. Therefore the NSA paid
> nothing or almost nothing, and therefore if the NSA
> licensed anything, it would have licensed everything.
>
> I doubt that the NSA paid any money whatsoever for this
> license, making it profoundly unimpressive as evidence
> that *any* curves have a plausible valid patent. If the
> NSA paid real money, the patent holders would be
> sticking it in our face as a price setting precedent.
>
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