the limits of crypto and authentication

Lance James lancej at securescience.net
Sat Jul 9 14:05:48 EDT 2005


Steven M. Bellovin wrote:

>There's been a lot of discussion about how to strengthen cryptography 
>and authentication, to get away from problems of phishing, pharming, 
>etc.  But such approaches can take you only so far, as this link 
>indicates:
>
>http://www.lurhq.com/grams.html
>
>Briefly, it's a Trojan that waits for you to log int o E-Gold, checks 
>your balance, and drains your account except for .004 grams of gold.
>  
>


There is a possible solution against an OLE event driven session rider 
such as this one. The solution I proposed was to use a variant of 
CAPTCHA that would add mutual authentication in the mix within the 
picture. Yes, there are some people that say CAPTCHA can be broken, but 
in the game of phishing, it's abouit numbers, not about silver bullets. 
The way to get around the "porn" CAPTCHA problem was to ask something 
that the user might only know and then ask the user about the activity 
they are performing.

This would stop this instance of E-gold attacks.

>		--Steven M. Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb
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Best Regards,
Lance James
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