Microsoft: Palladium will not limit what you can run

Bill Stewart bill.stewart at pobox.com
Sun Mar 16 03:16:35 EST 2003


Anish asked for references to Palladium.
Using a search engine to find things with "palladium cryptography 
wasabisystems"
or "palladium cypherpunks" will find a bunch of pointers to articles,
some of them organized usefully.


>On Thursday, Mar 13, 2003, at 21:45 US/Eastern, Jay Sulzberger wrote:
>>The Xbox will not boot any free kernel without hardware modification.
>>The Xbox is an IBM style peecee with some feeble hardware and software DRM.

But is the Xbox running Nag-Scab or whatever Palladium was renamed?
Or is it running something of its own, perhaps using some similar components?

At 12:38 AM 03/14/2003 -0500, Jeroen C. van Gelderen wrote:
>and sold by Microsoft below cost (aka subsidized).
>With the expectation that you will be buying Microsoft games
>to offset the initial loss. (You don't have a right to this subsidy,
>it is up to Microsoft to set the terms here.)

It doesn't need to be below cost; Walmart was selling machines
with capabilities fairly similar to the Xbox for less,
and they certainly don't do anything below cost.
(This was the ~$200 Linux PCs.)  Now, the amortized development cost
of those PCs is probably less than that of X-box,
and they were a bit less compact hardware (though Xbox is pretty
much of a porker compared to most of the other gamer boxes),
and of course the "cost" of the Xbox might include some amortized
cost of developing whichever Windows variation it uses,
while Walmart didn't have that cost.





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