FC: Hollywood wants to plug "analog hole," regulate A-D conve rters

[Jim Hughes]

I will add one more gallon of fuel to this fire and then sit by and
watch it burn... 

Imagine *if* there is a mandated change that there be some kind of
digital content filter in all D-A and *if* there is *any* probability at
all (no matter how small) that non-copyrighted material will trigger
this, would you put your life into the hands of a machine that will kill
you if all of the redundant D-A converters fail at exactly the same time
because of this "feature"?! Who should your children sue, Sony? Who pays
for all the design, development and testing to prove that this event
will not occur? Will this cause these machines to be developed in India
instead?

I honestly feel for the entertainment businesses and their losses, but
trying to keep honest people honest, while crippling US competitiveness,
seems to be a waste of their silver bullets, IMHO




On Wed, 2002-05-29 at 16:04, Adam Fields wrote:
> 
> "Hughes, James P" says:
> > Change the billboard for elevator music (which will be protected). Will you
> > be able to play back your digital dictations *if* they were recorded in an
> > environment that included background music.
> > 
> > IMHO, Silly does not mean they will not be successful. Look at DMCA.  
> > 
> 
> I'm curious - I've never seen any discussion of this, but it hit home
> quite forcefully when I was ejected from my battery park apartment on
> 9/11 and needed to temporarily install some software on a new computer
> - has anyone made the point that enforced technological copyright
> protections are detrimental to security because they eliminate the
> possibility of using that technology in an emergency?
> 
> More than not being able to take a picture of your kid's birthday -
> what if all of those cameras refused to take pictures of the WTC
> burning?  What if my computer was wiped out, and I needed to use a
> copy of some software to tell people I was still alive? Even if I was
> authorized to do so, the technological "protections" would prevent me
> from doing it, because I wouldn't be able to prove it to them (and
> this is a relatively minor inconvenience compared to the possibility
> that the key grantor is destroyed). It seems like these are more
> pervasive arguments that would appeal to more of a universal public
> good (individual safety and public record) than mere "I want to watch
> TV when >I< want to". Granted, I agree with that argument too, but
> then, I'm one of the converted.
> 
> Given that we seem to be rapidly moving towards a future where
> emergency situations are only going to become more prevalent, it seems
> strangely like a serious (physical, societal, etc...) security risk to
> lock down all this technology.
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Trei, Peter <ptrei at rsasecurity.com>
> > To: 'Michael_Heyman at NAI.com' <Michael_Heyman at NAI.com>;
> > 'cryptography at wasabisystems.com' <cryptography at wasabisystems.com>
> > Sent: Wed May 29 12:29:39 2002
> > Subject: RE: FC: Hollywood wants to plug "analog hole," regulate A-D conve
> > rters
> > 
> > Actually, it's unlikely that anyone would embed watermarks in billboard
> > ads, or in ads in general. Copying an ad is usually a Good Thing from
> > the advertiser's point of view - more exposure. It's only the program
> > material which needs protection.
> > 
> > To get back to security; could I use this to defeat video surrveilliance
> > cameras, by wearing a copyrighted teeshirt??
> > 
> > This thread on this very silly idea from the MPAA has gone far 
> > enough, IMHO. 
> > 
> > Peter Trei
> > 
> > > ----------
> > > From: 	Michael_Heyman at NAI.com[SMTP:Michael_Heyman at NAI.com]
> > > Sent: 	Wednesday, May 29, 2002 2:14 PM
> > > To: 	cryptography at wasabisystems.com
> > > Subject: 	RE: FC: Hollywood wants to plug "analog hole," regulate A-D
> > > conve rters
> > > 
> > > > From: Pete Chown [mailto:Pete.Chown at skygate.co.uk]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 8:05 AM
> > > > 
> > > > David G. Koontz wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Can you imagine watermarks on billboard advertisements?  How
> > > > > subliminal.
> > > > 
> > > > Actually this would be weird.  Suppose digital cameras had to
> > > > be fitted with a watermark detection system.  Suddenly, we 
> > > > have lost a much more fundamental fair use right -- the right 
> > > > to include copyright material as an incidental part of a photograph.
> > > > [SNIP]
> > > >
> > > I would like to buy some watermarked cloths please. Then I could be
> > > invisible :-)
> > > 
> > > -Michael Heyman
> > > 
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