VISA: All Your Password Are Belong to Us

Enzo Michelangeli em at who.net
Tue Dec 4 04:56:11 EST 2001


----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Guy Briggs" <rgb at conscoop.ottawa.on.ca>
To: "Enzo Michelangeli" <em at em.no-ip.com>
Cc: "Richard Guy Briggs" <rgb at conscoop.ottawa.on.ca>;
<cryptography at wasabisystems.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: VISA: All Your Password Are Belong to Us


> On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 04:30:02PM +0800, Enzo Michelangeli wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Richard Guy Briggs" <rgb at conscoop.ottawa.on.ca>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 6:18 PM
> >
> > > So if I understand this correctly, if I am running a client, for which
> > > there is no plugin, I am screwed?  This seems pretty limiting.
> >
> > The plugin is a piece of software that runs on the merchant server, not
on
> > the client (buyer's browser). Of course, this represents a pain in the
neck
> > for the merchants, as they'll have to buy and install such plugin...
>
> So what was the issue about it not working with Macintosh?  Why would
> that matter?

Perhaps there is also a client-side component to, e.g., cache the password
in a sort of "wallet", or, in case of smartcard-based authentication,
interface the Visa Smartcard. However, the protocol (formerly known as 3D
Secure) should be able to work without any specialized client, because a
password can be sent securely from a browser window to the Issuer ACS over a
simple HTTPS session. As I remember from last year, when I last examined the
protocol, one of the design goals was to keep unspecified the sub-protocol
between Issuer ACS and buyer's machine, allowing for a variety of
issuer-specific solutions.

Remember the business relationship chain: Cardholder (i.e., buyer) <-->
Issuer <--> VISA (or MC) <--> Acquirer <--> Merchant. Visa, a banking
consortium, cannot (and doesn't wasnt to) deal with cardholders and
merchants. Those should sort their issues with, respectively, issuers and
acquirers. The purpose of "Verified by Visa" is precisely to let issuers
authenticate their own cardholders, relieving merchants, acquirers and,
(crucially!), Visa, from the burden of sorting out disputes deriving from
misuse of someone else's card number. It's only natural that the issuer
should be let free to choose the authentication method it prefers.

Enzo





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