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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/23/2025 6:25 PM, Salz, Rich via
cryptography wrote:<br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt">All the CAbal exists only
because of browsers refusing to do DNSSEC,<br>
even now they have a clean and secure path via DoH
anyways....<br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">If
some random client Joe wants to securely browse some
random site foo.blog, how many parties need to be
involved? With TLS, I need the browser and its
trust store, Joe, and the owner of foo.blog talking
to a CA. Let’s pick a more complicated example,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.kingston.ci.ma.us">www.kingston.ci.ma.us</a>. The number of entities is
still the same. What’s it like for DNSSEC?
Honestly curious.</span></p>
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<p>With DNSSEC+DANE (if browsers add DANE support), the website
owner can just use a self-signed TLS cert and create a TLSA record
(DANE-EE mode) for the domain name which contains the hash of the
self-signed cert. That's it.<br>
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<p>Web browser just has to fetch the TLSA record (with DNSSEC
validation), and then match the hash with the cert that the server
sends during the TLS handshake. <br>
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Regards,<br>
<b>Shreyas Zare</b><br>
<a href="https://technitium.com/">Technitium</a>
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