<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 7:57 PM iang <<a href="mailto:iang@iang.org">iang@iang.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  

    
  
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            <pre style="font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap;width:260px;min-width:100%;word-break:break-word;font-family:"Courier New",Courier,monospace;color:rgb(0,0,0)"></pre></td></tr></tbody></table></div></blockquote><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"></span> </div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">We have been due a new factorization of RSA for some time. It is clear that 1024 </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">bits is now within reach for an attacker that really wants to break a key. Fortunately,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">there shouldn't be so many 1024 bit keys left that matter.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">What does give me concern is that right now, everyone seems to be focused on the </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">threat from Quantum cryptanalysis and the threat of algorithm improvement seems to </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">be ignored.</div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Yes, people are doing bigger and bigger science projects. But that is all they are. We </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">could build a 10,000 Qbit machine today. What we can't do is operate one long enough</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">to make real use of more than a dozen of those QBits.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">There are very good reasons to continue to look at Quantum. Not least that it seems<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">likely consciousness will turn out to be a Quantum effect. Just as turnips happily fix </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">nitrogen without using the temperatures and pressures of our industrial processes, it </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">is possible that low temperatures aren't needed for quantum interactions.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">The state of quantum certainly justifies serious concern and development of contingency</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">plans. But that is a really low bar. Even a 1% probability of successful development of </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">quantum cryptanalysis within 20 years demands the current level of attention QR is getting.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">But the current state of quantum does not justify writing off public key crypto yet. Or </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">abandoning any public key approaches that we can't be confident can be made QR.</div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div>