[Cryptography] Two physics experiment questions
Jon Callas
jon at callas.org
Thu May 28 00:32:14 EDT 2026
> On May 27, 2026, at 03:09, Ralf Senderek <crypto at senderek.ie> wrote:
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> On Tue, 26 May 2026, Jon Callas wrote:
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>>> Take the total silence on this list to Peter's posting about copy fail.
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>> What about it? It's a kernel bug. It's not cryptography at all, and strictly speaking off-topic
>> for the list.
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> That's exactly the wrong mindset you're promoting.
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> Cryptography is not (only) about algorithms and math, it matters most when it
> comes to actually building secure systems that we use. And if (failed)
> cryptography in the kernel is off-topic for this list, then you've had some
> kind of success.
Fair enough, but I disagree just a bit.
If you don't have a secure kernel, then everything is insecure, and yes cryptographic keys are part of everything.
I think there are some things we acknowledge as threats, but they aren't precisely cryptography.
Example, what if you could read someone's mind from far away. That totally ruins end-to-end encryption in messengers. No need to read the traffic, you read the person's mind.
That doesn't mean I don't think we need secure kernels -- I was a secure kernel person long before I did any cryptography. We need secure kernels, and among the reasons we need them is confidentiality.
Jon
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