[Cryptography] New White Paper: GhostLine - Information-Theoretically Secure Multi-Party Chat
Pierre Abbat
phma at bezitopo.org
Sun Sep 7 02:46:56 EDT 2025
On Saturday, September 6, 2025 10:49:49 AM EDT Ron Garret wrote:
> I'm posting this as a public service to the crypto list. I looked at this
> paper so you don't have to. The paper appears superficially plausible, but
> the general heuristic that any mention of a one-time-pad is a strong
> indicator of crackpottery applies here. AFAICT on a cursory reading, the
> paper isn't wrong, it just leaves out one teensy little detail: key
> exchange. There is a reason that OTP is never used in practice despite
> being information-theoretically secure.
>
> There are additional clues: the "From" header lists the senders name as
> "Ferecides de Siros" [1] but the message body and the paper both say that
> the author's name is "Hitokiri Battosai" [2], and the "about me" page on
> the web site listed in the contact information in the paper says "I'm
> Aristoh4ck8r, the enigmatic force behind the curtain."
All of these were my concerns as well when I gave it a quick glance, except
that I didn't get as far as "Aristoh4ck8r". (I'm moving and was too tired to
think of crypto; also, Ferecides posted it at a time that here is the night of
the Sabbath, and I had to get enough sleep to not nod off too much in church.)
I just cloned the repo and looked at the code, of which there is a lot less
than I expected, and have some more questions: How do you get truly random
numbers for the OTP? How do you distribute the OTP? What happens if Alice
sends Bob a message at the same time that Carol sends Dave a message? Can they
use the same piece of OTP, thus producing depth?
Pierre
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