[Cryptography] People vs AI

[Ray Dillinger]

On 3/4/25 22:37, iang via cryptography wrote:
> It's not about the UI (imho) it's about the definition or meaning of
> Trust *and* the definition or meaning of Idenitty. Everyone assumes they
> know what these mean, but few in the tech field seems to have much of a
> model...

In the domain of cryptography, Trust means someone can screw you over by 
acting in bad faith. But that's not the kind of trust we're talking 
about here.  We should probably have different words for these concepts.

In the field of business, Trust means we can tell that someone has the 
assets to comply with the terms of such contracts as they have entered 
and is subject to the jurisprudence of some entity capable of forcing 
them to do so (and also forcing them to conform to other expectations of 
legal behavior), and does not have some legal status (such as being a 
minor citizen) that could prevent someone legally entering relationships 
and contracts.

And one way or another, business-domain Trust comes down to 
relationships and identity.

Bitcoin ties assets (of dubious value) to anonymous/pseudonymous 
entities, but absolutely failed on all other points of business-domain 
trust, with disastrous results. Tying the other aspects of 
business-domain trust to anonymous or pseudonymous entities, without 
introducing cryptography-domain Trust, is at best intractable and 
requires insights we haven't yet had.

Bear