[Cryptography] People vs AI

arxlight arxlight at arx.li
Sat Mar 15 14:27:57 EDT 2025



On 13.03.25 09:14, iang via cryptography wrote:

> There's a couple of names I've not heard for a while :)
> 
> This model is what I'd call the American school - that signing as a nym
> was totally acceptable because that's who you were - that nym. On the
> other side of the pond, they ran signing parties where everyone would
> line up in two lines and show their passport to the other side, plus the
> details. That European model was about proving your government ID.
> 
> They weren't contradictory as much as information free - there wasn't
> any emergent protocol that distinguished which was which. So trust
> didn't work, because nobody know what the signing statement actually stated.
> 
> As an anecodote, Black Unicorn, being on the American nymous side, got
> outed at the Ecliptic Curve cruise in '98 in Anguilla, because the boat
> required everyone to present their passports for recording. Probably as
> we were cruising past a half dozen island states to get to the eclipse
> off Montserrat. *Someone* was cunning enough to check the boarding
> manifest and find the one name that nobody knew...

"Nobody knew" is strong. Good work sussing out the name on *that* 
passport nevertheless.

It must have been within hours of that when we had the conversation 
about the strange single point of failure it was to have a substantial 
slice of the world's crypto (in the original sense of the word) 
expertise on the same boat in the immediate vicinity of a semi-active 
volcano during a total eclipse.

Ah. Memories.

-uni


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