[Cryptography] People vs AI
Marek Tichy
marek at gn.apc.org
Wed Mar 12 03:06:05 EDT 2025
On 11. 03. 25 22:03, Jerry Leichter wrote:
>>>> ...Proof of Human is the cornerstone of the networks security.
>>> I don't see any hope of being able to prove that an entity on the network is human, given even the current state of AI (and it only gets harder from here). That train left the station.
>> I disagree here. The vast majority of our immediate peers we still have
>> in person interactions with on a fairly regular basis. This is all that is
>> required to bootstrap the security of the network.
> But that has nothing to do with proof of humanity. You already know your peers are human - they need prove nothing to you.
>
> Then again, most of the people I interact with I almost never meet physically. I've only ever met a few of the members of this list, for example.
Have we lost the web-of-trust track here? If Bob who I know in person
tells me that Alice is a person then I have very good reasons to believe
that Alice is a person, even though I never met her.
The trick here moreover is that with that DID "from Bob", Alice can
gradually collect a plethora of other Verifiable Credentials from other
(other than Bob) issuers that can further (and perhaps stronger) testify
she's a person, among other things. For instance, an automatically
issued VC saying that "Alice has solved Captcha in the last 3 months".
From the service provider point of view, I'm not talking about the
binary (is/is not a person) check but about the likelihood of Alice not
being an AI.
>
>> You can think of Eudaemon as a continuous keysigning party...
> which solves, for me, exactly what problem? And in particular, how is it related to "Proof of Human is the cornerstone of the networks security"?
>
> -- Jerry
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