[Cryptography] People vs AI

[Agathos]

On Mon, Mar 10, 2025 at 07:10:26PM -0400, Jerry Leichter wrote:
> Focusing on just one issue:
> > ...Proof of Human is the cornerstone of the networks security.
> I don't see any hope of being able to prove that an entity on the network is human, given even the current state of AI (and it only gets harder from here).  That train left the station.

I disagree here. The vast majority of our immediate peers we still have
in person interactions with on a fairly regular basis. This is all that is
required to bootstrap the security of the network.

You can think of Eudaemon as a continuous keysigning party - except with
all the complexity of native pgp taken out of the problem. Eudaemon
utilises the cryptographic primatives that pgp provides, but then
presents a api/cli/ui that is much similar to Facebook, for example.

If in person proof of human verification is not possible we still have,
as a species, enough shared secrets pre always on surveillance devices 
(smartphones) and no privacy cloud tech for "over the phone" style
verification. This must be drawn upon sparingly...

Once AI can take physical form and convincingly impersonate people then
perhaps the train will be ready to leave the station. The ultimate
Turing test...

We still have time.

Utility, not ideology, must drive adoption. And there is certain utility
that can only be provided by a Human small world graph.

Agathos
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