[Cryptography] Anonymous rendezvous (was Business opportunities in crypto)

jrzx jrzx at protonmail.ch
Fri May 21 07:34:59 EDT 2021


jrzx via cryptography <cryptography at metzdowd.com> skrev:
> > It acquired a reputation for hosting good reviews by hosting good reviews.
> >
> > It does not have a reputation for hosting good reviews because a Certficate
> > authority says it is NewEgg. Thus, no trusted third party required.
> >
> > If they had been hosting good reviews under a bitmessage or Zooko type key,
> > or an onion service key would have worked the same way, without the people
> > being able to confiscate their good name, and without people having the
> > capability to intercept their messages.
> >
> >
> > What NewEgg accomplished, can be accomplished on a system that is strongly
> > distributed like bitmessage - no connections between participants except
> > those explicitly desired; and no trusted third parties
> >
> > Bitmessage is what you say cannot be done, and it is doing it.

On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 9:52 AM, Natanael <natanael.l at gmail.com> wrote:
> being Newegg and doing a good job of curating reviews isn't sufficient to
> establish *identity* because their actions and the data which are used to
> describe them are not self authenticating. You connect to an untruste
> network and somebody presents this data to you associated with an
> arbitrary key.

You don't seem to be familiar with Zooko name systems. With a Zooko type
name system an arbitrary key will simply fail.

You are describing the certificate authority system, not the Zooko name system,
which *is* self authenticating.

With the certificate authority system, the registrar can confiscate NewEggs
good name, or anyone of a thousand certificate authorities could steal it for a
time, which typically takes the form of a man in the middle attack.

With a Zooko name system, they cannot.
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