[Cryptography] Dark Web should really be called the Twilight Web

Lodewijk andré de la porte l at odewijk.nl
Thu May 28 00:08:04 EDT 2015

2015-05-28 12:08 GMT+09:00 Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill at hallambaker.com>:

> Where I don't see Tor being remotely safe is trying to operate an online
> Drug bazar as a hidden service. I mean seriously guys, cryptography isn't
> magic and traffic analysis is a very effective tool. Tor is still going to
> help your customers keep their identity secret but it isn't going to stop a
> determined law enforcement team with pervasive Internet access tracking
> down your server. Not when the hidden service is trying to become a
> consumer brand with global reach.

But do they care about drugs? National security does not seem directly
impacted by drug use. In fact, there's plenty evidence that these markets
reduce drug-related violence (which is dangerous).

They probably launder intelligence to lesser agencies, just helping them
out. But they wouldn't want to waste their secrecy. I suspect that's also
the reason Tor is still believed to be safe, they don't show their hand for
nothing, and nothing has happened on Tor so far.

But, yeah, intelligence laundering, that's the largest problem.
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