> On 2015-08-26 (238), at 20:07:57, Henry Baker <hbaker1 at pipeline.com> wrote: > > What’s the current best estimate for the (in)security of 3DES, in bits ? Out of 112? Maybe 104? I’m guessing only Shamir knows for ”sure” these daze, for some value of sure. __outer — ”Incurably agnostic but prone to unpredictable relapses into faith.”