[Cryptography] To what is Anderson referring here?

Dan McDonald danmcd at kebe.com
Thu Jun 5 15:58:51 EDT 2014


On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 09:29:27PM +1200, Peter Gutmann wrote:

> Heck, the IPsec folks more or less made this explicit:
> 
>   all password-based authentication is insecure; IPsec is designed to be
>   secure; therefore, you have to deploy a PKI for it

A noticeable amount of IPsec deployments (IKE to be precise) uses PSK.  Some
implementations even let you use self-signed certs and explicit trust (not
the Big Name in Redmond, however).

Key management is ALWAYS the elephant in the room.  IPsec *can*, when
properly built, decouple key management (e.g. IKE) from the protection of
packets (AH & ESP).  This allows people to build better/faster/stronger KM
entities.

Dan


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