[Cryptography] Now it's personal -- Belgian cryptographer MITM'd by GCHQ/NSA

[James A. Donald]

> On Feb 2, 2014, at 5:38 AM, ianG wrote:
>> We can play the game of "you don't know that for a fact" forever, but at
>> the end of the day, they will never enter court and let the court
>> declare it a fact, so that easy excuse is their game, their rules, their
>> victory.

On 2014-02-03 09:56, Jerry Leichter wrote:
> And the alternative is ... what?  The witch hunt?  The mob?  Kill all, 
> God will know his own?

Short of the fall of the US government, we are not in position to hang them

The alternative, is simply to distrust them and everything they have 
touched, to assume that any *software* that they have a finger in is 
guilty until proven innocent, that every committee that they have a 
member on is trying impose broken standards, and or prevent workable 
standards.