[Cryptography] phishing, was Encryption opinion

[James A. Donald]

On 2014-08-26 14:48, John Levine wrote:
>>> Web phishes rarely do MITM.  It's a site that looks like the real site
>>> and tells you to log in.  Once you do, it says oops, you mistyped your
>>> password and perhaps redirects you to the real site.  It's just
>>> impersonation.
>>
>> MITM is an abstract term denoting two endpoints and a node in the
>> middle.  The correct communication goes between the endpoints without
>> interference.  An MITM interposes a middle node by one means or another
>> that can see plaintext and pervert intent.
>>
>> Above, you've met those requirements.
>
> No, the phish site does not communicate with the bank, it merely
> impersonates the bank to steal your credentials.  The phish is not a
> middle node.  I don't know how to say that any more clearly.

Phishing:

Alice intends to submit her password to Bob.  Instead she submits it to 
Mallory, who submits it to Bob.

Sure sounds like Mallory is in the middle.