[Cryptography] The role of the IETF in security of the Internet: for or against the NSA? for or against the security of users of the net?

[Salz, Rich]

> This is a deception.
> 
> And the falsity of this deception becomes obvious when the IETF obstinately
> does something particularly stupid or evil.

Can you give an examples of such deception?  Losing an argument, or not having a particular proposal accepted is not an example. In fact, it could be a proof-point for my statement of participation. Compare that to, say IEEE, W3C, ISO, etc. 

I am particularly interested in what kind of evil the IETF has obstinately done. 

I haven't been called a liar in quite some time.

	/r$
 
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