[Cryptography] Apple and OpenSSL

Lodewijk andré de la porte l at odewijk.nl
Wed Apr 23 18:01:44 EDT 2014


On Apr 23, 2014 11:25 PM, <tpb-crypto at laposte.net> wrote:
>
> > Message du 23/04/14 22:22
> > De : "Lodewijk andré de la porte"
> > >
> > > How many donations Apple offered to keep FreeBSD - which it sucked
whole
> > to create its MacOS?
> >
> > What's this charity you keep calling Apple? If FreeBSD people wanted
> > something back they would have chosen to exclude ripping it all away
from
> > the permissed things to do.
> >
> > Don't pretend it's not exactly what you would expect without restrictive
> > licenses.
> >
>
> The objective of FreeBSD is to make a free system for all, those that
benefit most should give back, that is the logic on which such foundations
operate, if they don't ...

Should give back is not in the terms or lisence. Wishful thinking is faulty
logic, FreeBSD has and will suffer from it.

> where goes Apple's social responsibility really?

Social responsibilty is a marketing metric, nothing more. It has little
effect on Apple's profit and is therefore largely ignored. (Note: uproar
caused improvements, as it was risking impacting the baseline)

> For a hipster company that claims to care about others, it does anything
but.

The dominant player in the mobile computing industry is, by the definition
of the word, not hipster. The word you're looking for is trendy, buy it is
not hip anymore.

Anyway. The point is that you cannot seriously expect an entity that
strives for nothing but profit to behave in a way that will reduce profit.
Given the low amount of cool people (people that prefer good things over
trendy things) companies don't usually behave in a cool way.

It would have been exceedingly easy for freebsd to protect the code from
being used in Mac. They conciously chose not to. So you feel like Apple
stole from FreeBSD, but it did not. FreeBSD decide that what Apple did is
/desirable/. This is the outcome of the choices made. No theft, no
dishonesty.

If you think Apple should feel guilty if they want to do this, force them.
Either make them lose money or legally bind them. Or, accept what was
chosen by FreeBSD's people.
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