Lava lamp random number generator made useful?

Jerry Leichter leichter_jerrold at emc.com
Fri Sep 19 17:16:26 EDT 2008


The Lava Lamp Random Number generator (at http://www.lavarnd.org/)  
generates true random numbers from the images of a couple of lava  
lamps.  Of course, as a source of randomness for cryptographic  
purposes, it's useless because it's visible to everyone (though I  
suppose it might be used for Rabin's beacons).

At ThinkGeek, you can now, for only $6.99, buy yourself a USB-powered  
mini lava lamp (see http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/lights/7825/).   
"All you need" is some way to watch the thing - perhaps a USB camera -  
and some software to extract random bits.  (This isn't *really* a lava  
lamp - the lamp is filled with a fluid containing many small  
reflective plastic chips, lit from below by a small incandescent bulb  
which also generates the heat that keeps the fluid circulating.  From  
any given vantage point, you get flashes as one of the plastic chips  
gets into just the right position to give you a reflected view of the  
bulb.  These should be pretty easy to extract, and should be quite   
random.  Based on observation, the bit rate won't be very high - a bit  
every couple of seconds - though perhaps you can use cameras at a  
couple of vantage points.  Still, worth it for the bragging rights.)

An alternative, also at ThinkGeek, is a USB-powered Plasma Ball (at http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/science/964e/) 
.  The arc discharges should be even easier to convert into a  
bitstream, though it's probably a more biased source than the lava  
lamp, so will need more post-processing.

                                                         -- Jerry


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