ad hoc IPsec or similiar

Nicolas Williams Nicolas.Williams at
Tue Jun 26 16:26:20 EDT 2007

On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 01:20:41PM -0700, Paul Hoffman wrote:
> >For all the other aspects of BTNS (IPsec connection latching [and
> >channel binding], IPsec APIs, leap-of-faith IPsec) agreeing on a
> >globally shared secret does not come close to being sufficient.
> Fully agree. BTNS will definitely give you more than just one-off 
> encrypted tunnels, once the work is finished. But then, it should 
> probably be called MMTBTNS (Much More Than...).

I strongly dislike the WG's name.  Suffice it to say that it was not my
idea :); it created a lot of controversy at the time, though perhaps
that controversy helped sell the idea ("why would you want this silly,
insecure stuff?" "because it enables this other actually secure stuff").


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