The bank fraud blame game

Perry E. Metzger perry at piermont.com
Sun Jul 1 16:01:03 EDT 2007


Adam Shostack <adam at homeport.org> writes:
> On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 01:08:12AM +1200, Peter Gutmann wrote:
> > 
> > Given that all you need for this is a glorified pocket calculator,
> > you could (in large enough quantities) probably get it made for <
> > $10, provided you shot anyone who tried to introduce
> > product-deployment DoS mechanisms like smart cards and EMV into
> > the picture.  Now all we need to do is figure out how to get there
> > from here.
>
> I'd suggest starting from the deployment, training, and help desk
> costs.  The technology is free, getting users to use it is not.  I
> helped several banks look at this stuff in the late 90s, when cost of
> a smartcard reader was order ~25, and deployment costs were estimated
> at $100, and help desk at $50/user/year.

Of course, given the magnitude of costs of fraud, and where it may be
heading in the near term, the $50 a year may be well spent, especially
if it could be cut to $25 with some UI investment. It is all a
question of whether you'd rather pay up front with the security
apparatus or after the fact in fraud costs...

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Perry E. Metzger		perry at piermont.com

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