Is there any future for smartcards?

James A. Donald jamesd at echeque.com
Tue Sep 13 17:22:27 EDT 2005


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James A. Donald:
> > Typical worm installation [on a smartphone] goes
> > like this:
> >
> > : :	Receive message via bluetooth from
> > : :	unnamed device?  Y/N
> > : :
> > : :	Installation Security warning:  Unable to 
> > : :	verify supplier.  Continue anyway? Y/N

Eugen Leitl
> It's just a networked computer that happens to look 
> like a mobile phone. Not particularly
> security-oriented.
>
> It also doesn't matter what current malware does on
> the current platform. FWIW, it's still in primitive
> shenanigan stage. It's a question what future malware
> on future mobile platforms will do. It's a machine for
> young social primates. Not suitable for a payment
> system, unless equipped with dedicated, hardened 
> cryptographic compartment with dedicated display and
> PIN/biometrics.

Symbian is a lot stronger than Windows or Linux, and we
have been implementing payment systems on Windows/Linux.

> > Seems to me that the phone designers have done a
> > better job with virus, worm, and malware resistance
> > than Microsoft or Linux.  Teenagers are pretty
> > sophisticated.

Eugen Leitl
> Are we talking even about the same species? About the
> same teenagers which already own malware-infested PCs,

The teenagers I know almost never get viruses on their
PCs. 

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