[OT] Encryption

R. A. Hettinga rah at shipwright.com
Fri Jan 2 15:59:07 EST 2004

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Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 21:08:21 +0100
Subject: Re: [OT] Encryption
From: Robert Tito <cassiope at wanadoo.nl>
To: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4 at mac.com>
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On 2-1-2004 20:40, "Kyle Moffett" <mrmacman_g4 at mac.com> wrote:

> Hash: SHA1
> On Jan 02, 2004, at 14:11, Robert Tito wrote:
>> On 2-1-2004 20:08, "Shawn Erickson" <shawn at freetimesw.com> wrote:
>>> Can you tell us the name of the product?
>>> Note that describing the algorithm used in an encryption technology
>>> does not imply one has to open your code up but just describe the
>>> ciphers methodology. In absence of that it is hard for anyone to
>>> verify
>>> the ability of the algorithm.
>>> For example RSA's RC5 is described [1] yet not open sourced. It is
>>> patented and requires licensing to use.
>>> It sounds like you may have had some type of public/government
>>> verification that has taken place...?
>>> -Shawn
>> Its called Salutis.
> Do you have a link or a web-page that describes the product?  Where
> might one find more information about said product?  Perhaps a link to
> the government classification standard you claim to be meeting,
> including the identity of the third-party that verified your
> classification
> level.  Please note that I do not want your assembly or C++ code, nor
> do I even want pseudo-code, though pseudo-code is acceptable if you
> want to provide it, it's just a little harder to read.  All I was
> asking for was
> the mathematical procedure(s) you use for encryption.  All of the
> cryptographic experts that I know tell me that anyone who will not
> provide a description of their encryption system for anyone who asks is
> just selling snake-oil in the form of a cryptographic application.
> Cheers,
> Kyle Moffett
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The information is available at www.vgz.nl, when you use contact an english
version and additional information can and will be sent, so far we have just
put up a Dutch site as we are a Dutch company working for the Dutch
department of justice and Department of Finance and the police.
But the FBI and NSA and CIA have tried to crack our solutuion (meaning the
encrypted file) but they failed. Because once the encryption starts it is
impossible to provide a backdoor the solution is pretty safe. And not very
welcomed by those US services: it provides absolute level 4 secrecy.

Rob Tito
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