anonymous DH & MITM

Tim Dierks tim at dierks.org
Thu Oct 2 12:36:18 EDT 2003


At 11:50 PM 10/1/2003, Ian Grigg wrote:
>(AFAIK, self-signed certs in every way dominate
>ADH in functional terms.)

In TLS, AnonDH offers forward secrecy, but there are no RSA certificate 
modes which do (except for ExportRSA). You can use ephemeral DH key 
agreement keys with static certified DSA keys, though.

To be clear, this is a protocol issue, not really a self-signed certs vs. 
DH issue. The only real difference between a self-signed cert and an 
ephemeral bare public key is that you've got proof of private key 
possession by somebody (if that matters to you), and the entity has bound a 
self-asserted name & attributes to the key. Also, our extant infrastructure 
makes it easier to cache a once-presented X.509 certificate for consistency 
with future transactions, and self-signed certs fit more cleanly into a 
hybrid model where some entities are trusted due to third-party 
certification and some are directly approved.

  - Tim


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