M-209 for sale on EBay
Arnold G. Reinhold
reinhold at world.std.com
Tue Oct 29 08:25:22 EST 2002
I'd have to agree with Jim. I have some WW II military radios in my
basement and they look pretty pristine on the inside. Military
equipment is built for long shelf life. Even stuff that's seen a lot
of service often cleans up nicely. Also the (unmet) minimum bid for
the M-209 on Ebay was $3000. It's hard to see how someone could make
a small quantity of something that mechanically complex and make much
money selling them for $3000 each.
Arnold Reinhold
At 5:34 PM -1000 10/28/02, Jim Gillogly wrote:
>Jay D. Dyson wrote:
>>On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Jeffrey I. Schiller wrote:
>>>>There's an M-209 for sale on EBay:
>>>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=726499988
>>>
>>>Auction closes in about 4 hours and no one has bid...
>>
>> Small wonder. The unit in question appears to have a distinct
>>lack of wear and no sign of degradation from regular use. Having worked
>>with U.S. military hardware (mid 1980s) that was from the Korean conflict
>>era, I can attest that *nothing* ever came our way that was that
>>pristine. This in itself leads me to believe the item up for bid is
>>a replica.
>
>I'm not convinced by this argument -- but then I have a vested
>interest in not being convinced. I have an apparently nearly identical
>M-209-B, also unused before I got it. Since then I've encrypted a
>couple of thousand characters on it; it works perfectly, and matches
>the behavior of a real M-209. The story was that it was part
>of a cache of surplus M-209's that were produced but never needed in
>WW2, and they "turned up" decades later. I bought mine perhaps 10
>years ago. The accessories were also in perfect condition: an extra
>roll of tape, the ink and pad tubes, and the khaki carrying case.
>The manual seemed to me convincing: the realistic WW2-style paper
>was yellowed but unused, and the staples had rusted, suggesting
>that it had been bound a good long time before I bought it.
>
>I think mine is real, and by extension I have no reason to doubt
>that the one on eBay is also real. Have you ever heard of anyone
>making M-209 replicas? If you were going to that much trouble,
>why not do it with Enigmas instead? They're much better known,
>more secure (for what it's worth at that security level), and have
>a much higher potential street value.
>
> Jim Gillogly
>
>
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