Maybe no stego on eBay afterall
Peter Wayner
pcw2 at flyzone.com
Fri Jul 19 15:05:03 EDT 2002
At 11:14 AM -0700 7/19/02, Nelson Minar wrote:
> >The basic scheme is very simple. Generally the inserted message has
>>higher entropy than the raw LSBs of an image. So the entropy of the
>>picture/message combo should be higher than the picture alone.
>
>That's only for lousy steganography. If you really want to mask your
>message, you match it to the statistical profile of the source data.
>Of course that's difficult to do perfectly and so is potentially
>detectable, but you can make detection much harder than "look for
>white noise in the LSB".
Yes, you're right. Good steganography isn't that hard to generate--
especially if you're not greedy.
>
>>So even though there's some cool science in the process, there's no
>>scientific way to draw the line.
>
>I agree. Maybe the good folks at WetStone just draw the line in
>whatever place is best for their business at the time. Or maybe they
>made an honest mistake. Either way, now their president is on record
>drawing the line in two radically different places.
Yes, I'm glad someone noticed this. It's a great datapoint!
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