building a true RNG

David Wagner daw at cs.berkeley.edu
Thu Aug 1 20:28:43 EDT 2002


> David Wagner <daw at cs.berkeley.edu> writes:
> > I don't know of any good cryptographic hash function that comes with
> > a proof that all outputs are possible.  However, it might not be too
> > hard to come up with plausible examples.  For example, if we apply the
> > Luby-Rackoff construction (i.e., 3 rounds of a Feistel cipher), with
> > ideal hash functions in each round, does this have the desired properties?
> > It might.
> 
> This seems to define a block cipher with no key, which is collision
> free but not one-way.  Am I misunderstanding what you're proposing?

You understood it perfectly.  Good point.
I didn't notice that problem.  Harrumph.

Thanks for catching my oversight!

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