<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jan 12, 2019, at 8:14 PM, Tom Mitchell <<a href="mailto:mitch@niftyegg.com" class="">mitch@niftyegg.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="">On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 10:48 PM Udhay Shankar N <<a href="mailto:udhay@pobox.com" class="">udhay@pobox.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/government-shutdown-tls-certificates-not-renewed-many-websites-are-down/" target="_blank" class="">https://www.zdnet.com/article/government-shutdown-tls-certificates-not-renewed-many-websites-are-down/</a></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class="">More than 80 TLS certificates used by US government websites have expired so far without being renewed, leaving some websites inaccessible to the public.<br class=""></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class="">For <a href="http://whitehouse.gov/" class="">whitehouse.gov</a><br class=""><div style="display: table-row; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(251, 251, 251);" class=""><div class="gmail-attribute" style="display:table-cell;white-space:nowrap;color:rgb(120,120,120);line-height:18px">Issued On</div><div id="gmail-issue-date" class="gmail-value" style="display:table-cell;white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(120,120,120);line-height:18px">Sunday, December 23, 2018 at 4:00:00 PM</div></div><div style="display: table-row; font-family: Roboto, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(251, 251, 251);" class=""><div class="gmail-attribute" style="display:table-cell;white-space:nowrap;color:rgb(120,120,120);line-height:18px">Expires On</div><div id="expiry-date" class="gmail-value" style="display:table-cell;white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(120,120,120);line-height:18px">Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 5:00:00 AM</div></div> </div><div class="">Now I need to look at the 80 to see if there are systematics to the list.<br class="">I dislike thing that look dumb on one side and well planned on another.<br class="">The partial government shutdown that began Dec. 22.  How was the WH issued a fresh cert<br class=""></div><div class="">after the shutdown. </div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>The WH, and many US federal agencies have their own discretionary funds, in addition to, and separate from, the congressionally-approved allocations affected by the shutdown. They can decide who to pay and not pay with those funds.</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="">Who works on Sunday especially with a shutdown.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>Federal employees do.</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="">  Who paid the fee?<br class=""></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>The WH marketing department, probably.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>- johnk</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div class=""><br class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div>-- <br class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">   T o m    M i t c h e l l<br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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