<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">2018-02-23 1:32 GMT+03:00 <a href="mailto:sickpig@gmail.com">sickpig@gmail.com</a> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sickpig@gmail.com" target="_blank">sickpig@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><div style="font-family:sans-serif" dir="auto"><span class=""><div><div class="m_-2488008826812722108m_-5319790754318011574elided-text"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>However a better system would be pay to send, be paid to receive. <br></blockquote></div></div></span></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif"><a href="http://earn.com" target="_blank">earn.com</a> does exactly that already and it is based on Bitcoin.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div>
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><a href="http://earn.com">earn.com</a> does not aim to fight against spam but rather to help popular people earn money when they read/respond to emails and make you pay to reach the attention of important people. Therefore, the more popular you are the more you get when you read and respond.<span> </span></span><span class="gmail-gr_ gmail-gr_6498 gmail-gr-alert gmail-gr_spell gmail-gr_inline_cards gmail-gr_disable_anim_appear gmail-ContextualSpelling gmail-multiReplace" id="gmail-6498" style="display:inline;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:small;border-bottom:2px solid transparent;background-repeat:no-repeat;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">It's</span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span> </span>basic motive is to earn money to read and respond to<span> </span></span><span class="gmail-gr_ gmail-gr_6314 gmail-gr-alert gmail-gr_spell gmail-gr_inline_cards gmail-gr_disable_anim_appear gmail-ContextualSpelling gmail-ins-del" id="gmail-6314" style="display:inline;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:small;border-bottom:2px solid transparent;background-repeat:no-repeat;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">mails</span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">. What I propose is the following to fight spam all over the Internet:</span><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">IETF (or W3C/IEEE/EFF) owns a token to be used in mail communication on<span> </span><span class="gmail-gr_ gmail-gr_1513 gmail-gr-alert gmail-gr_gramm gmail-gr_hide gmail-gr_inline_cards gmail-gr_disable_anim_appear gmail-Grammar gmail-only-ins gmail-multiReplace gmail-replaceWithoutSep gmail-replaceWithoutSep" id="gmail-1513" style="display:inline;border-bottom:2px solid transparent;background-repeat:no-repeat;color:inherit;font-size:inherit">sender-pays-recipien</span>t scheme. 1 mail costs 1 MC (MailCoin). All emails are equal, all people are equal. Simple. Normal people who send and receive emails pay a net cost around zero, those who send a lot of emails to their clients and receive much less pay a fair amount. Spammers who broadcast and don't receive die. The effectiveness of this algorithm lies in the fact that since the costs of emails I receive and send cancel out I will pay a net cost around zero under a fee that is enough to kill spammers. </div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">If this fee comes from a token owned by IEFT (or a consortium of IETF, W3C, IEEE, EFF, all the mail service providers like Google, Microsoft, etc. will support. It can even make it to the SMTP protocol in the long run since it is simple, fair and secure. I am talking about a little p</div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">The income created by creating and selling the tokens goes to IETF/W3C to be used to serve the Internet.</div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">
<span class="gmail-" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">>>2018-02-19 10:49 GMT+03:00 John Levine <<a href="mailto:johnl@iecc.com" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">johnl@iecc.com</a>>:<br>>>> In article <<a href="mailto:6012d900-c6d6-4fc4-b0c0-ef7068a0c4ea@echeque.com" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">6012d900-c6d6-4fc4-b0c0-<wbr>ef7068a0c4ea@echeque.com</a>> you write:<br>>>> That is another WKBI, one with an expired patent.</span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span class="gmail-" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span class="gmail-" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">>>Can u provide the expired patent if it is easy for you to spot?<br></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span class="gmail-" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">>The best known one is 6,697,462</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">>Not expired: 7,072,943</span>
<br></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Thanks John. I checked both. I propose something different. In fact they are too complicated and no wonder why they did not succeed. They cannot make it to the SMTP. My proposal is simple. Just attach a signed script of payment to the mail. That's it. A simple rule for all mails. It can make it to the SMTP if IETF or W3C (or a similar consortium) owns the coin. The income is spent for the Internet.</div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">6,697,462</span>: "...<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">the system and method forces the money associated with the bond to be forfeited if the communication is rejected or deemed undesirable by the recipient. To prevent financially motivated abuse on the part of recipients, the preferred embodiment forfeits the bond money in favor of a third party such as a charity or governmental entity, to which the recipient has no legal obligation.</span>"<br></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">7,072,943: "
<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Roboto,sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">An Email guarantee deposit method, system, and program product, with the method comprising in one embodiment, the steps of: receiving from a sender a request to send to a recipient an Email; receiving a deposit or an authorization to obtain a deposit of something of value; sending the Email to the recipient only if a deposit of authorization for a deposit is received; determining if the recipient has accepted the deposit; and if the recipient has accepted the deposit, then facilitating the disposal of the deposit. In an important alternate embodiment, a deposit can be required before an Email with a auditory or visual enhancement is provided, or before routing to a designated type of device occurs.</span>
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<br></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2018-02-23 1:32 GMT+03:00 <a href="mailto:sickpig@gmail.com">sickpig@gmail.com</a> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sickpig@gmail.com" target="_blank">sickpig@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><div style="font-family:sans-serif" dir="auto">Hi,<span class=""><br><div><br><div class="m_-2488008826812722108m_-5319790754318011574elided-text">On 18 Feb 2018 10:54 pm, <<a href="mailto:jamesd@echeque.com" target="_blank">jamesd@echeque.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>On 18/02/2018 13:35, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:<br><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> Basically the bad guys have more computers than the good guys ! (some of<br> which they have stolen, but spam is lucrative enough that they can<br> afford to buy them anyway -- so all you will ever do is to freeze out<br> low profit-margin spam).<br></blockquote><br></div>There is a huge amount of low profit-margin spam.<br><br>However a better system would be pay to send, be paid to receive. <br></blockquote></div></div></span></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif"><a href="http://earn.com" target="_blank">earn.com</a> does exactly that already and it is based on Bitcoin.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div></div></div></div>
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