<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 28, 2016, at 6:18 AM, ianG <<a href="mailto:iang@iang.org" class="">iang@iang.org</a>> wrote:</div><div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""> Just as an aside... Belgians designed the algorithm, the code was written by a Brazilian, the Java test rig was created by an Australian. The Dutch in Anguilla did something too, can't quite recall what tho. The other 4 contenders (or 29) were from many countries and spent a lot of time analysing the 5 leaders. All 5 leaders were thought to be state of the art of the time.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""> Seems non-national to me :)</span></div></blockquote></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Agree. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Maybe the point should be that AES went through a crazy hard PUBLIC gauntlet, far more than any other algorithm ever, including DES, before it got its “national” moniker. That can not be said for the other “national” algorithms. Emphasis on PUBLIC gauntlet. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Given that the IETF can not muster the level of scrutiny to any other algorithm that was spent on AES, the IETF seems to be the tail on this dog. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Be careful what you ask for. The IETF choosing some random non-national cipher could be the NSA’s dream. Through NIST, they can mandate what they want for the military and banks, and read the rest. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></body></html>