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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/11/15 19:42, John Denker wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Long, thoughtful article by Max Fisher:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.vox.com/2014/12/12/7381539/merkel-phone-tapped-nsa">http://www.vox.com/2014/12/12/7381539/merkel-phone-tapped-nsa</a></pre>
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Fisher's story is slippery - here's what Spiegel said in Dec 2014<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/nsa-german-federal-prosecutor-seeks-to-discredit-spiegel-reporting-a-1008262.html">http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/nsa-german-federal-prosecutor-seeks-to-discredit-spiegel-reporting-a-1008262.html</a><br>
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Fisher's story is headlined "NSA probably didn't tap Merkel's phone
after all", but this is diluted in the text to "<a sl-processed="1"
target="_blank"
href="http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0JP1QG20141211?irpc=932">found
no evidence that the tapping ever occurred</a>" which is what
Range has been saying since June 2014. Der Spiegel as above said :<br>
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<li>On Oct. 17, 2013, SPIEGEL Berlin bureau chief Nikolaus Blome
and reporter Jörg Schindler met with Steffen Seibert, Merkel's
official spokesman. They presented him with a letter detailing
the information obtained about spying on Merkel's mobile phone.
The two made clear to Seibert that the paper was a copy of the
details from an NSA database entry SPIEGEL had viewed. Seibert
also understood it to be such.</li>
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<p>One might speculate that if the original was an electronic
document, it would be wise for source protection not to surrender
the electonic data.<br>
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<pre wrap="">When the story first broke in October 2013, President Obama
personally called Merkel to tell her it wasn't true. </pre>
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Which is also slippery - the link Fisher provides says no such thing
(that it was not true)<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/10/23/obamas-phone-call-with-angela-merkel-sounds-like-it-was-horribly-awkward/">http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/10/23/obamas-phone-call-with-angela-merkel-sounds-like-it-was-horribly-awkward/</a><br>
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<pre wrap="">It was widely
assumed that Obama was lying; it now appears, based on Germany's own
investigation, that he may have been telling the truth.</pre>
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Caspar Bowden<br>
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