<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Perry E. Metzger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:perry@piermont.com" target="_blank">perry@piermont.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">I would like to open the floor to *informed speculation* about<br>

BULLRUN.<br>
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Informed speculation means intelligent, technical ideas about what<br>
has been done. It does not mean wild conspiracy theories and the<br>
like. I will be instructing the moderators (yes, I have help these<br>
days) to ruthlessly prune inappropriate material.<br>
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At the same time, I will repeat that reasonably informed<br>
technical speculation is appropriate, as is any solid information<br>
available.</blockquote><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-gchq-encryption-codes-security">http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-gchq-encryption-codes-security</a><br>
</div><div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:14.166666030883789px;line-height:14.999999046325684px">• The </span><span class="" style="padding:0px;margin:0px;border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:14.166666030883789px;line-height:14.999999046325684px;background-repeat:no-repeat no-repeat"><span class="" style="padding:0px;margin:0px;border-collapse:collapse;background-repeat:no-repeat no-repeat"></span>NSA</span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:14.166666030883789px;line-height:14.999999046325684px"> spends $250m a year on a program which, among other goals, works with technology companies to "covertly influence" their product designs.</span></div>
<div><br></div><div>I believe this confirms my theory that the NSA has plants in the IETF to discourage moves to strong crypto.</div></div><div><br></div>-- <br>Website: <a href="http://hallambaker.com/">http://hallambaker.com/</a><br>

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