[Cryptography] MSFT doesn't retain keys for its own German cloud

Henry Baker hbaker1 at pipeline.com
Tue Mar 15 22:52:35 EDT 2016


At 07:20 PM 3/15/2016, Bill Frantz wrote:
>On 3/15/16 at 5:56 PM, leichter at lrw.com (Jerry Leichter) wrote:
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>>Of course, this is only relevant when the US (or, for that matter, the Germans) go through standard legal channels.  The spies get their access behind the scenes, and when operating outside of their own borders (let's close our eyes to the stuff within their own borders, shall we?) can do pretty much whatever they can get away with - which is pretty much anything.
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>The traditional way of handling these situations is to ask some foreign agency to the collect the data, so it is operating outside its own borders. The word on the street is that GCHQ and NSA are good buddies with these arrangements. Of course, proof that it happens is much harder to get.

I should think that Deutsche Telekom (Frau Bell?) would have an equally good relationship with the NSA.  After all, Uncle Sugar paid to rebuild the West German telephone system after WWII (which is why W. Germany has the newest physical plant in Europe and E. Germany didn't -- at least as of 1990).



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