[Cryptography] traffic analysis -> let's write an RFC?
John Gilmore
gnu at toad.com
Thu Jan 29 19:59:04 EST 2015
Ben Laurie wrote:
> >> > Yeah, but ... who can realistically afford that bandwidth?
Gilmore wrote:
> >> Your employer Google can - it owns the fibers among its data centers
> >> (and many other fibers, I believe). Clearly, Jerry's remark ("If you
> >> own the link") was addressed to link-level encryption.
Ben replied:
> > Clearly the idea was you design your network so that you do own the link.
> > Which brings me back to my question (even Google cannot afford that much
> > network, I suspect).
For those with shorter memories, back in 2005 when there was a huge
glut of fiber capacity, Google bought what the press alleged was hundreds
of millions or billions of dollars' worth of dark fiber.
http://readwrite.com/2013/12/17/internet-backbone-google-amazon-facebook-microsoft
"First, a little historical context. During the dot-com boom of the
late 1990s and early 2000s, big telecom companies rushed to build up
network capacity, anticipating a vast increase in Internet traffic
from all corners of the world. But these companies overextended
themselves and ended up building way more cables than what was
necessary at the time. In doing so, they drove the prices of fiber
and data way down and ended up bankrupt and broken.
"Enter Google. Born in the late 1990s and flush with cash just a few
years later, the search giant seized an unparalled opportunity to
start buying up this dark fiber capacity on the cheap."
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/business2/business2_archive/2005/09/01/8356497/index.htm
"Business 2.0 has learned from telecom insiders that Google is
already building such a network, though ostensibly for many
reasons. For the past year, it has quietly been shopping for miles
and miles of "dark," or unused, fiber-optic cable across the country
from wholesalers such as New York's AboveNet. It's also acquiring
superfast connections from Cogent Communications and WilTel, among
others, between East Coast cities including Atlanta, Miami, and New
York. Such large-scale purchases are unprecedented for an Internet
company, but Google's timing is impeccable. The rash of telecom
bankruptcies has freed up a ton of bargain-priced capacity, which
Google needs as it prepares to unleash a flood of new,
bandwidth-hungry applications."
http://news.cnet.com/Google-wants-dark-fiber/2100-1034_3-5537392.html
http://www.lightreading.com/optical/dwdm/google-dark-fiber-story-not-so-dark/d/d-id/633236
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/IT-Infrastructure/Google-and-Its-Continuing-Dark-Fiber-Mystery
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/tech-myths/5-myths-about-google5.htm
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/2007/pulpit_20070119_001510.html
"Google controls more network fiber than any other organization."
John
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