[Clips] Does Phil Zimmermann need a clue on VoIP?

[Anne & Lynn Wheeler]

Mark Allen Earnest wrote:
> *yawn* Yet another person who confuses PK with PKI. Almost NOBODY has
> ever done PKI right. The I is the part everyone conveniently forgets
> when they claim otherwise.

when we were doing this stuff related to e-commerce ... we also had to
go out and audit some number of these certificate issuing institutions.
we frequently explained to them what a service operation was. at the
time, we coined the term *certificate manufactoring* to help
differentiate from a PKI. one of the  largest organization commented
that they thot it was somehow involved computers and technology and
other fancy stuff ... and they were finding out that even simple
*certificate manufactoring* was 95 percent or more bookkeeping,
accounting and paper work. there was frequently questions about how they
might outsource even that little part of service oriented operation.

random past posts on ssl domain name certificates ... some number dating
back to the period of the original payment gateway.
http://www.garlic.com/subpubkey.html#sslcert

one of the big issues for real businesses with extensive and well
established relationship management infrastructure ... it readily became
apparent that even trivial *certificate manufactoring* operation
represented a significant redundant and superfluous activity ...
unnecessarily duplicating existing business operations.

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