Cypherpunks List Info
R. A. Hettinga
rah at shipwright.com
Mon Dec 31 09:03:29 EST 2001
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Status: U
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 20:00:01 -0800
From: cpunk at lne.com
To: cypherpunks at lne.com
Subject: Cypherpunks List Info
Sender: owner-cypherpunks at lne.com
Cypherpunks Distributed Remailers list info.
Last updated: 9/28/01
This message is also available at http://www.lne.com/cpunk
Instructions on unsubscribing from the list can be found below.
The Cypherpunks list is a mailing list for discussing cryptography and
its effect on society. It is not a moderated list (but see exceptions
below) and the list operators are not responsible for the list content.
The CDR is a distributed mailing list. A subscriber can subscribe to one
node of the list and thereby participate on the full list. Each node
exchanges messages with the other nodes, so a message posted to one node
will be received by the list subscribers on the other nodes.
The various CDRs follow different policies on filtering spam and
to a smaller extent on modifying messages that go to/from their subscribers.
Filtering is done, on nodes that do it, to reduce the huge amount of spam
that the cypherpunks list is subjected to.
There are three basic flavors of filtering CDRs: "raw", which send all
messages to their subscribers. "cooked" CDRs try to eliminate the spam
on that's on the regular list by automatically sending only messages
that are from cypherpunks list subscribers (on any CDR) or people who
are replying to list messages. And finally there are moderated lists,
where a human moderator decides which messages from the raw list to pass
on to subscribers.
Message modification policy indicates what modifications, if any, beyond
what is needed to operate the CDR are done (most CDRs add a tracking
X-loop header on mail posted to their subscribers to prevent mail loops).
Message modification usually happens on mail going in or out to each
CDR's subscribers. No CDRs modify mail that they pass from
one CDR to the next.
Privacy policy indicates if the list will allow anyone ("open"), or only
list members, or no one ("private") , to retrieve the subscribers list.
Note that if you post, being on a "private" list doesn't mean much,
since your address is now out there. It's really only useful for
keeping spammers from harvesting addresses.
Digest mode indicates that the CDR supports digest mode, which is
where the posts are batched up into a few large emails.
Nodes that support only digest mode are noted.
Anonymous posting:
Cypherpunks encourages anonymous posting.
You can use an anonymous remailer:
http://www.andrebacard.com/remail.html
http://anon.efga.org/Remailers
http://www.gilc.org/speech/anonymous/remailer.html
Or you can send posts to the list via cpunks_anon at einstein.ssz.com
and your mail's headers will be stripped before posting.
Note that this doesn't provide complete anonymity since
the receiving site will still have log file entries showing
the source of the mail (or you have to trust that they delete them).
Unsubscribing from the cypherpunks list:
Since the list is run from a number of different CDRs, you have to
figure out which CDR you are subscribed to. If you don't remember and
can't figure it out from the mail headers (hint: the top Received: line
should tell you), the easiest way to unsubscribe is to send unsubscribe
messages to all the CDRs listed below.
All commands are sent in the body of mail unless otherwise noted.
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Algebra:
Operator:
Subscription: "subscribe cypherpunks" to majordomo at algebra.com
Unsubscription: "unsubscribe cypherpunks" to majordomo at algebra.com
Help: "help cypherpunks" to majordomo at algebra.com
Posting address: cypherpunks at algebra.com
Filtering policy: raw
Message Modification policy: no modification
Privacy policy: ???
Info: ???
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CCC:
Operator: drt at un.bewaff.net
Subscription: "subscribe [password of your choice]" to
cypherpunks-request at koeln.ccc.de
Unsubscription: "unsubscribe <password>" to cypherpunks-request at koeln.ccc.de
Help: "help" to to cypherpunks-request at koeln.ccc.de
Web site: http://koeln.ccc.de/mailman/listinfo/cypherpunks
Posting address: cypherpunks at koeln.ccc.de
Filtering policy: This specific node drops messages bigger than 32k and
every message with more than 17 recipients or just a line
containing "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" in the subject.
Digest mode: this node is digest-only
NNTP: news://koeln.ccc.de/cbone.ml.cypherpunks
Message Modification policy: no modification
Privacy policy: ???
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Infonex:
Subscription: "subscribe cypherpunks" to majordomo at infonex.com
Unsubscription: "unsubscribe cypherpunks" to majordomo at infonex.com
Help: "help cypherpunks" to majordomo at infonex.com
Posting address: cypherpunks at infonex.com
Filtering policy: raw
Message Modification policy: no modification
Privacy policy: ???
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Lne:
Subscription: "subscribe cypherpunks" to majordomo at lne.com
Unsubscription: "unsubscribe cypherpunks" to majordomo at lne.com
Help: "help cypherpunks" to majordomo at lne.com
Posting address: cypherpunks at lne.com
Filtering policy: cooked
Posts from all CDR subscribers & replies to threads go to lne CDR subscribers.
All posts from other CDRs are forwarded to other CDRs unmodified.
Message Modification policy:
1. messages are demimed (MIME attachments removed) when posted
through lne or received by lne CDR subscribers
2. leading "CDR:" in subject line removed
3. "Reply-to:" removed
Privacy policy: private
Info: http://www.lne.com/cpunk; "info cypherpunks" to majordomo at lne.com
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Minder:
Subscription: "subscribe cypherpunks" to majordomo at minder.net
Unsubscription: "unsubscribe cypherpunks" to majordomo at minder.net
Help: "help" to majordomo at minder.net
Posting address: cypherpunks at minder.net
Filtering policy: raw
Message Modification policy: no modification
Privacy policy: private
Info: send mail to cypherpunks-info at minder.net
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Openpgp:
[openpgp seems to have dropped off the end of the world-- it
doesn't return anything from sending help queries. Ericm, 8/7/01]
Subscription: "subscribe cypherpunks" to listproc at openpgp.net
Unsubscription: "unsubscribe cypherpunks" to listproc at openpgp.net
Help: "help" to listproc at openpgp.net
Posting address: cypherpunks at openpgp.net
Filtering policy: raw
Message Modification policy: no modification
Privacy policy: ???
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Ssz:
Subscription: "subscribe cypherpunks" to majordomo at ssz.com
Unsubscription: "unsubscribe cypherpunks" to majordomo at ssz.com
Help: "help cypherpunks" to majordomo at ssz.com
Posting address: cypherpunks at ssz.com
Filtering policy: raw
Message Modification policy:
Subject line prepended with "CDR:"
Reply-to cypherpunks at ssz.com added.
Privacy policy: open
Info: http://www.ssz.com/cdr/
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Sunder:
Subscription: "subscribe" to sunder at sunder.net
Unsubscription: "unsubscribe" to sunder at sunder.net
Help: "help" to sunder at sunder.net
Posting address: sunder at sunder.net
Filtering policy: moderated
Message Modification policy: ???
Privacy policy: ???
Info: ???
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Pro-ns:
Subscription: "subscribe cypherpunks" to majordomo at pro-ns.net
Unsubscription: "unsubscribe cypherpunks" to majordomo at pro-ns.net
Help: "help cypherpunks" to majordomo at pro-ns.net
Posting address: cypherpunks at pro-ns.net
Filtering policy: cooked
Posts from all CDR subscribers & replies to threads go to local CDR
subscribers.
All posts from other CDRs are forwarded to other CDRs unmodified.
Message Modification policy:
1. leading "CDR:" in subject line removed
2. "Reply-to:" removed
Privacy policy: private
Info: http://www.pro-ns.net/cpunk
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R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah at ibuc.com>
The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/>
44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA
"... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity,
[predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to
experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
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